Legislature(2021 - 2022)BUTROVICH 205

03/02/2021 01:30 PM Senate HEALTH & SOCIAL SERVICES

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01:32:10 PM Start
01:33:02 PM Confirmation Hearing(s)
02:09:44 PM SB21
02:37:07 PM SB78
03:02:02 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Consideration of Governor's Appointees TELECONFERENCED
State Medical Board
- David Boswell
- Larry Daugherty
*+ SB 21 LICENSE MOBILE INTENSIVE CARE PARAMEDICS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
*+ SB 78 HEALTH CARE SERVICES BY TELEHEALTH TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
        SB  21-LICENSE MOBILE INTENSIVE CARE PARAMEDICS                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:09:44 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR   WILSON  reconvened   the   meeting   and  announced   the                                                               
consideration of  SENATE BILL NO.  21 "An Act relating  to mobile                                                               
intensive  care  paramedics;  relating  to duties  of  the  State                                                               
Medical Board and  the Department of Health  and Social Services;                                                               
and providing  for an  effective date." He  states his  intent to                                                               
hear  an overview  of the  bill  and take  invited testimony.  He                                                               
asked the  staff of bill  sponsor Senator Revak to  introduce the                                                               
bill.  He noted  a number  of people  available online  to answer                                                               
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:10:43 PM                                                                                                                    
DIRK CRAFT, Staff, Senator Josh  Revak, Alaska State Legislature,                                                               
said that SB  21 seeks to consolidate oversight  of the Emergency                                                               
Medical Services  (EMS) system  under a  single agency  to better                                                               
provide  better peer  and professional  oversight. This  has been                                                               
years in the making through  a deliberative process that involved                                                               
hundreds  of stakeholders  throughout the  EMS community.  It has                                                               
been unanimously  supported by  the State  Medical Board  and has                                                               
broad  support from  paramedics around  the state.  Currently EMS                                                               
oversight is  split between  the State  Medical Board  within the                                                               
Department of Commerce  and the EMS section of  the Department of                                                               
Health and  Social Services (DHSS).  This bill will  transfer all                                                               
paramedic licensure  to the Alaska Emergency  Medical Services in                                                               
DHSS,  which   currently  is  responsible  for   certifying  EMTs                                                               
(Emergency Medical  Technicians), EMT instructors,  EMT training,                                                               
ground  ambulance and  medevac  services, paramedic  instructors,                                                               
and paramedic  training. The split  arose because  paramedics did                                                               
not  exist in  Alaska before  1974. After  1974, the  term mobile                                                               
intensive  care  paramedic  was  created for  the  new  scope  of                                                               
practice  in the  Anchorage and  Fairbanks fire  departments. EMS                                                               
within DHSS  did not  exist in  Alaska code  until 1981  when the                                                               
responsibility to  license and  credential paramedics  was placed                                                               
under the  State Medical  Board. In 1984  the EMS  section became                                                               
fully functional;  however, the paramedic licensure  still stayed                                                               
under the State Medical Board.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. CRAFT said that SB 21  will not change the scope of practice,                                                               
license requirements, or fee structure  for the approximately 600                                                               
paramedic licenses in Alaska. Medical  direction will be provided                                                               
by the  existing DHSS chief  medical officer and the  EMS medical                                                               
director's  committee comprised  of  11  members specializing  in                                                               
emergency medicine, five  of whom are required  to have paramedic                                                               
experience.   The  EMS   existing  data   systems  are   able  to                                                               
incorporate  paramedic  licensure,  making the  move  a  seamless                                                               
transition.  Transferring  oversight   and  licensure  of  mobile                                                               
intensive care  paramedics from the  State Medical Board  to DHSS                                                               
will  fully integrate  the EMS  system and  ensure it  is robust,                                                               
sustainable,  and resilient.  Aligning all  EMS services  under a                                                               
single  agency better  promotes  public health  and safety  while                                                               
also  providing   efficiencies  through  peer   and  professional                                                               
oversight.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:13:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SETH   DUGGAN,   Staff,   Senator  Josh   Revak,   Alaska   State                                                               
Legislature, Juneau, Alaska, presented the sectional analysis:                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.    1     amends    08.64.107,     State    Medical                                                                    
     Board/Regulation of physician  assistants and intensive                                                                    
     care  paramedics,  to  remove regulation  of  paramedic                                                                    
     licensure from the Medical Board. (See also Sec. 8.)                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  2   amends  08.64.170(a),  License   to  practice                                                                    
     medicine, podiatry, or  osteopathy, allowing paramedics                                                                    
     to  practice medicine  to  render emergency  lifesaving                                                                    
     service  under  "another  law"  instead  of  under  the                                                                    
     Medical Board's authority. (See also Sec. 6)                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  3   amends  08.64.360,  Penalty   for  practicing                                                                    
     without  a  license  or in  violation  of  chapter,  to                                                                    
     remove paramedics. (See also Sec. 10)                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 4  amends 08.64.369(d), Health  care professionals                                                                    
     to  report  certain   injuries,  to  change  paramedics                                                                    
     licensed  under the  Medical  Board  to those  licensed                                                                    
     under DHSS,  for health care providers  who must report                                                                    
     certain injuries to the Department of Public Safety.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 5 amends  12.55.185(11), Sentencing and Probation,                                                                    
     to change  paramedics licensed under the  Medical Board                                                                    
     to those licensed under DHSS.                                                                                              
     Sec.  6   amends  18.08.075,  Authority   of  emergency                                                                    
     medical  technician,  to  allow paramedics  to  provide                                                                    
     emergency medical care. (See also Sec. 2.)                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.    7   amends    18.08.080,   Emergency    Medical                                                                    
     Services/Regulation,   to   require   DHSS   to   adopt                                                                    
     regulations   establishing   standards  for   paramedic                                                                    
     licenses.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 8 adds a  new subsection 18.08.082(a)(5), Issuance                                                                    
     of  certificates; designations,  to  add regulation  of                                                                    
     paramedic licensure to DHSS. (See also Sec. 1.)                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     2:14:40 PM                                                                                                               
     Sec. 9  amends 18.08.082(b), Issuance  of certificates;                                                                    
     designations,  to  clarify  that DHSS  is  the  central                                                                    
     certifying  and  licensing  agency  for  all  emergency                                                                    
     medical services.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 10  amends 18.08.084(a), Certificate  required, to                                                                    
     prohibit  a  person  from  practicing  as  a  paramedic                                                                    
     without a license. (See also Sec. 3.)                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 11  amends 18.08.086(a), Immunity  from liability,                                                                    
     adding license  because they are certified.  This means                                                                    
     it   provides  immunity   in   08.02,  which   includes                                                                    
     paramedics.  They  are  not liable  for  civil  damages                                                                    
     unless it's gross negligence.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 12  18.08.089(a) is amended  to allow  a paramedic                                                                    
     to  pronounce someone's  death if  the paramedic  falls                                                                    
     under one of the three categories.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  13  adds  a  new  paragraph  (14)  to  18.08.200,                                                                    
     Emergency  Medical  Services/Definitions,  to  add  the                                                                    
     definition of  "mobile intensive care  paramedic". (See                                                                    
     also Sec. 14.)                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.   14  Amends   29.45.050(r)   to  include   mobile                                                                    
     intensive care  paramedics in a municipal  property tax                                                                    
     exemption.  Emergency  Medical   Services  are  already                                                                    
     under   this,  this   section  just   clarifies  Mobile                                                                    
     Intensive Care Paramedics.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  DUGGAN noted  that  Section  14 is  only  for voluntary  EMS                                                               
staff.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  15  amends   37.05.146(c)(77)(F),  Definition  of                                                                    
     program   receipts   and   non-general   fund   program                                                                    
     receipts, to  add fees for  licensure of  paramedics to                                                                    
     the list of fees collected by DHSS.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.  16  repeals  08.64.366,  Liability  for  services                                                                    
     rendered  by a  mobile  intensive  care paramedic  (See                                                                    
     18.08.086,  Immunity   from  liability,   under  DHSS).                                                                    
     Repeals 08.64.380,  Medicine/Definitions to  remove (3)                                                                    
     "emergency   lifesaving   service"  and   (4)   "mobile                                                                    
     intensive care paramedic" (See also Sec. 12).                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Sec.   17  amends   the  uncodified   law  to   provide                                                                    
     transitional  authorities:  (a)   A  current  paramedic                                                                    
     license  issued before  January 1,  2021 remains  valid                                                                    
     until it expires under the  Medical Board, is suspended                                                                    
     or revoked,  or is converted  to a license  under DHSS.                                                                    
     (b) The Department of  Commerce, Community and Economic                                                                    
     Development  and the  Medical  Board  will transfer  to                                                                    
     DHSS  on   January  1,  2021,  files   of  all  pending                                                                    
     paramedic-related     records      and     proceedings,                                                                    
     applications, and  disciplinary actions.  (c) Authority                                                                    
     for DHSS  to adopt regulations which  shall include the                                                                    
     conversion  of  unexpired   paramedic  licenses  issued                                                                    
     under the Medical Board.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 18  provides an immediate effective  date for DHSS                                                                    
     to adopt regulations.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Sec. 19 provides an effective date of January 1, 2022.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:16:55 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BEGICH  said that  anecdotally  he  has heard  that  the                                                               
process for  EMT licensure takes  a long  time. He asked  if this                                                               
will this speed up that process.  He noted the blank pages in the                                                               
fiscal  notes and  asked  if  the bill  would  lead  to any  cost                                                               
savings.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. CRAFT  replied that speeding  up the  process was one  of the                                                               
primary  reasons  for introducing  the  legislation,  as well  to                                                               
house   all  these   emergency   medical   personnel  under   one                                                               
professional  licensing  statute.  The   fiscal  notes  are  zero                                                               
because the  department can absorb  any potential change  in cost                                                               
but he would defer to the department.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:18:24 PM                                                                                                                    
CLINT  FARR,   Deputy  Director,   Division  of   Public  Health,                                                               
Department of Health and Social  Services (DHSS), Juneau, Alaska,                                                               
said that DHSS can absorb  any costs associated with the transfer                                                               
of  paramedics   to  his  division.  The   division  already  has                                                               
certification/licensure   processes   in   place   and   licenses                                                               
thousands of  EMTs annually,  so with  the number  of paramedics,                                                               
the office can absorb that with current staffing and processes.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH  asked when jurisdiction transfers  from the State                                                               
Medical Board, if  there is a provision for  public comment about                                                               
any issues with EMS services.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. FARR  replied that the  public has  a way to  comment through                                                               
the regulatory process. He deferred to Todd McDowell.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:20:11 PM                                                                                                                    
TODD MCDOWELL,  EMS Program Manager,  Division of  Public Health,                                                               
Department of Health and Social  Services (DHSS), Juneau, Alaska,                                                               
answered  that  the  medical director's  committee  has  biannual                                                               
meetings open to the public for comment.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  REINBOLD  asked if  the  governor's  executive order  to                                                               
split   DHSS  into   two  departments   takes  effective,   which                                                               
commissioner would EMS be under.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON   answered  the  Division  of   Public  Health.  He                                                               
clarified with Mr. Farr.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. FARR replied that is correct.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR REINBOLD suggested  that if DHSS is  bifurcated, the bill                                                               
should  have conforming  language.  She shared  that the  Chugiak                                                               
Fire Department is  so important to her community  and asked that                                                               
they be  allowed to weigh  in. She would  love to hear  from them                                                               
and their views on the bill.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES  said  that when  the  classification  was  first                                                               
created, the  only place to  put it  was under the  State Medical                                                               
Board. She asked why the change has taken so long.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. CRAFT replied  there is a long history. Brian  Webb who was a                                                               
paramedic around that time can explain.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:23:57 PM                                                                                                                    
BRIAN WEBB, representing  self, Anchorage, Alaska, said  he was a                                                               
former regional  EMS training coordinator.  He has  been involved                                                               
with this for  many years. One of the issues  with his generation                                                               
of  medics was  a  feeling  if they  switched  from licensure  to                                                               
certification that would somehow  diminish their stature and them                                                               
as a  medical practice as  a whole. His  era has retired  or died                                                               
off. The  newer generation is  looking at streamlined  and easier                                                               
ways of doing  things because the paramedic  licensure process in                                                               
Alaska is a dramatic affair. He  has been working on this for the                                                               
past 20  years. He started  this process with Senator  Birch over                                                               
three  years  ago.  The  paramedics  have tried  to  do  this  in                                                               
different ways  over the years and  finally the nexus came  to be                                                               
to do it legislatively.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES said  she will try to help them  get it across the                                                               
finish line.  Her husband was  in Vietnam as  a medic and  was an                                                               
EMT  and then  a  paramedic.  She asked  what  the difference  is                                                               
between  an EMT  and a  paramedic. She  observed the  fiscal note                                                               
that moving  the paramedics over  will create a  smoother pathway                                                               
for career advancement for EMTs.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WEBB said  that  the Office  of EMS  is  already staffed  by                                                               
paramedics who  already manage the training  and certification as                                                               
mentioned. That  will streamline  process, especially  for people                                                               
from out of state. It will  simplify a lot of things. The subject                                                               
matter experts  are already  at the  Office of  EMS who  know the                                                               
process and can streamline it for folks in the future.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES asked him to explain an EMT vs a paramedic.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. WEBB  said that an EMT  I requires 110-160 hours  of training                                                               
with  no clinical  experience required  before certification.  An                                                               
EMT I can become an EMT  II with another 50-80 hours of training,                                                               
plus  some additional  skills and  patient care  verification. To                                                               
become an  EMT III  requires 50-80  hours of  additional training                                                               
and a  test. Paramedics  are in classrooms  for over  1,000 hours                                                               
and then  after graduating  from a  paramedic program  they spend                                                               
about 650  hours in the  lower 48  riding along with  an advanced                                                               
life  support  ambulance service.  Then  they  take the  national                                                               
registry test and apply for state  licensure. It is a much longer                                                               
road with advanced skill sets compared to EMTs.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:29:03 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON opened public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
2:29:14 PM                                                                                                                    
WILMA  VINTON, representing  self, Fairbanks,  Alaska, said  that                                                               
she is  a mobile intensive  care paramedic (MICP) since  2007 and                                                               
an EMT  since 1979. She is  an assistant chief of  EMS for Steese                                                               
Volunteer  Fire Department.  She is  an EMS  instructor and  past                                                               
adjunct faculty for the University  of Alaska Fairbanks paramedic                                                               
program.  She   assists  EMTs  and   MICPs  with   acquiring  and                                                               
maintaining   their   certifications   and  licenses.   She   has                                                               
personally  gone  through  both  processes. This  move  from  the                                                               
Medical Board  to EMS in DHSS  is an excellent way  to streamline                                                               
the  licensing process.  EMTs and  MICPs work  side by  side, but                                                               
when she  is assisting members with  certifying and recertifying,                                                               
she is  working with  two different  agencies and  processes. The                                                               
state Office  of EMS is  already providing certification  to EMTs                                                               
in  an  efficient  and  effective   manner.  EMTs  are  regularly                                                               
certified  within a  week  of testing  but  definitely within  20                                                               
days.  She sees  no problems  with MICPs  being licensed  in that                                                               
same timeline.  The licensing under  the State Medical  Board can                                                               
take several months. The board only  meets four times a year. The                                                               
Office of  EMS has  staff who  work on this  on a  daily process.                                                               
This  shortened timeframe  is  especially  important for  someone                                                               
trying  to  get job  in  Alaska  as a  paramedic.  It  will be  a                                                               
seamless move  and will align the  MICPs with EMS as  they are in                                                               
many  states. This  will benefit  students, military  leaving the                                                               
service, and  those in  the lower  48 seeking  jobs in  Alaska as                                                               
paramedics.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:32:06 PM                                                                                                                    
RICHARD  ETHERIDGE,  Alaska   Fire  Chiefs  Association,  Juneau,                                                               
Alaska,  said  the  Fire  Chiefs   Association  supports  SB  21.                                                               
Paramedics often  have to be  hired from  out of state.  It often                                                               
takes  several  months  to  get licensed  in  Alaska  because  of                                                               
licensure through  the Medical Board.  The delay places  a burden                                                               
on a  community trying to  get paramedics to serve.  Sometimes it                                                               
takes six to  eight months. Transitioning paramedics  to EMS will                                                               
shorten the timeframe of getting  licenses or certificates. There                                                               
will  be no  decrease in  quality control.  It is  beneficial for                                                               
fire chiefs to have one state  agency to work with for continuing                                                               
education  and certification.  The State  Medical Board  voted to                                                               
support  this transition  and  the  Office of  EMS  is wiling  to                                                               
accept the program.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
2:33:56 PM                                                                                                                    
MICHAEL LEVY, M.D., EMA Medical  Director, Anchorage, Alaska, was                                                               
not able to testify because of sound problems.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   WILSON   asked   him   to   submit   his   testimony   to                                                               
shss@akleg.gov.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:35:53 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON closed public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR REINBOLD  noted that  the next  committee of  referral is                                                               
Labor and Commerce  and asked that the chair to  get the feedback                                                               
of the Chugiak Fire Department.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  WILSON  replied  that  the  bill  is  not  moving  out  of                                                               
committee today. The  bill sponsor will try to get  in touch with                                                               
the fire department before the bill moves out of committee.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COSTELLO added that her staff  has been in touch with the                                                               
fire department  and will  work to make  sure their  concerns are                                                               
heard.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:36:49 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR WILSON held SB 21 in committee.                                                                                           

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HSS_Dave Boswell Board Application_Redacted.pdf SHSS 3/2/2021 1:30:00 PM
SHSS Medical Board Confirmation Hearing
HSS_Larry Daugherty Board Application_Redacted.pdf SHSS 3/2/2021 1:30:00 PM
SHSS Medical Board Confirmation Hearing
SB 78 v. A.PDF SHSS 3/2/2021 1:30:00 PM
SB 78
SB 78 Sponsor Statement.pdf SHSS 3/2/2021 1:30:00 PM
SB 78
SB 78 v. A Sectional Analysis.pdf SHSS 3/2/2021 1:30:00 PM
SB 78
SB 78 Fiscal Note DCCED.pdf SHSS 3/2/2021 1:30:00 PM
SB 78
SB 21 version B.pdf HHSS 4/13/2021 3:00:00 PM
SHSS 3/2/2021 1:30:00 PM
SB 21
SB 21 Sponsor Statement.pdf HHSS 4/13/2021 3:00:00 PM
SHSS 3/2/2021 1:30:00 PM
SB 21
SB 21 Sectional Analysis.pdf HHSS 4/13/2021 3:00:00 PM
SHSS 3/2/2021 1:30:00 PM
SB 21
SB 21 Sectional Analysis 3.2.21.pdf SHSS 3/2/2021 1:30:00 PM
SB 21
SB 21 Fiscal Note DHSS.pdf HHSS 4/13/2021 3:00:00 PM
SHSS 3/2/2021 1:30:00 PM
SB 21
SB 21 Fiscal Note DCCED.pdf HHSS 4/13/2021 3:00:00 PM
SHSS 3/2/2021 1:30:00 PM
SB 21
SB 21 Point Paper.pdf HHSS 4/13/2021 3:00:00 PM
SHSS 3/2/2021 1:30:00 PM
SB 21
SB 21 State Medical Board Letter of Support (3.2.21).pdf SHSS 3/2/2021 1:30:00 PM
SB 21